On Tuesday’s Mark Levin Show, China’s out there trying to grab Taiwan, islands from the Philippines and Japan, and claiming the South China Sea like it’s their backyard—teaming up with Russia and cozying up to Iran and Saudi Arabia with the world’s biggest navy. Meanwhile, we’ve got 1930s-style isolationists here in America preaching ‘it’s not our problem’—the same crap Rome said until it was too late. NATO’s our shield, keeping enemies off our soil in a world shrunk by hypersonic missiles. We’re in NATO because it protects America. Later, Rep Chip Roy calls in to discuss Zelensky’s arrogant outburst in the Oval Office last week. Roy explains that Xi saw a powerful President who won’t take any crap from any world leaders. Hopefully, there’s still movement on the mineral deal. Also, Democrats thrive off government waste, fraud, and abuse. Afterward, the tariffs on Canada and Mexico are not about trade but are intended to stop the flow of fentanyl, particularly from China, coming through our borders.
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Rough transcription of Hour 1
Segment 1
Hello America. Mark Levin here. Our number 877-381-3811. 877-381-3811. President’s big speech at 9 p.m. Eastern time immediately following this program. As I told you, the Speaker of the House invited me to attend, but I wanted to be here with you. And, you know, right before this program, I got to thinking about something. We’re all ready to go. I’ve got a lot of things I want to get into with you, but I think it’s really time we have a discussion about Natan, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and I am more than happy to debate Senator Mike Lee. Mr. Producer, if he wants to come on the program to debate this issue, because more than once he says we should pull out a needle. But before we get to Natal, I want to ask you a question. Why does Communist China want Taiwan? Why does communist China want numerous islands that belong to the Philippines and claim it as its own, even though it has no claim to them whatsoever? Why does communist China want islands off of Japan, which it has no claim to either? Why is communist China claiming the navigable waters and the actual waters that belong to Vietnam and they’re blowing fishing boats out of the water? Why is communist China claiming that the South China Sea in the trillions of dollars of commerce. Not even speaking of the military navigable waters there belongs to them that they control the South China Sea with no historic claim whatsoever. That’s legitimate. Why is communist China in central Africa and the Congo grabbing as many minerals, rare earth minerals as they can? Why was communist China on both sides of the Panama Canal? Still is to some extent. Why does communist China have a presence in Central and South America in violation of the Monroe Doctrine? Why is communist China working with Russia? To control the Arctic Circle. And they’re rare earth minerals and. And they have a clear field to firing their. Hypersonic missiles. Why does communist China have the biggest navy on the face of the earth? Why are they building the biggest aircraft carrier in the world? Why are they building sophisticated nuclear submarines? Why does communist China spend an enormous percentage of its gross domestic product on its military? Well, it’s cyber warfare. On air. Why is communist China now going a compact with Iran? Has an old compact with North Korea. And a new compact with Russia. They’re on the move. So in the face of this, we have 1930s types, isolationists, despite the fact that they see the rising threat. Despite the fact they see a flat, really regressive military budget. Despite the fact that they see we don’t even have an industrial capability right now. To build warships. The Philadelphia Naval Yard is all but shut down. There’s only a couple of naval yards left. It’s a huge problem. Well, you have to read her the reports about our inability. Our inability to build naval ships. Little man them with sailors. Why does communist China and killer satellites. What’s going on here. And in the face of this. We have people who were buffoonish. The same type of people we had 90 years ago, 80 years ago. Preaching isolationism. Preaching imperialism and colonialism, that is, that we are apparently the imperialists and colonialists. Why is Communist China building a relationship with Saudi Arabia? I already said Iran. What are they up to? Should we ignore it? So, Naito. I find it humorous and disgusting at the same time. As somebody who grew up in the Reagan era. That’s not an old era. The futuristic era, the smart era. It was a we win they lose era. Was a freedom against tyranny era. The idea that decades go by and suddenly. The battle between freedom and tyranny disappears. Is absurd. The battle of freedom versus tyranny never disappears. The battle between good and evil never disappears. Evil takes different forms. It takes different forms. You know why great republics disappear. You know, I. Athens disappeared. Roman Rome. First the Republic. The first four or 500 years. Then the Empire. The latter for 500 years. They got fat and lazy. Because they persuaded themselves. That nobody would defeat them. They rejected all evidence to the contrary. They looked inward. They looked inward and they got weak. As they were fighting with each other. Among other reasons. You know why the Jews lost the second temple to the Romans while they were clearly outnumbered and outgunned. But they were fighting with each other. Behind the walls of the temple. As the Romans were approaching, as the Romans laid siege to the temple, they were still fighting with each other until it was too late. Now united, but it was too late. They were virtually wiped out, of course. Ancient history is what it is. Do you know why we had to send? So many of our troops to Europe. During World War Two. As Hitler was building his forces, Tojo was building his forces in the Pacific. His Mussolini. The earliest of the three was building his forces. In southern Europe. Because we said we had an ocean. It was none of our business. Even when Britain was struggling for survival shortly before we were attacked by the Japanese. The same mouthpieces, the same forces you hear today. What is it? Any of our business. And what are the leaders in this effort? What is an American hero? Lindbergh. One of the leaders in this effort. Was Joseph Kennedy, Senior. After we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh effectively apologized to the American people. He had built this. He called it the American First Movement. Hundreds of thousands of Americans. Who talk like Mike Lee. Who talk like Rand Paul. Who talk like the old time George McGovern fights the old time left wing Democrat. He apologized and he immediately went on a. Campaign actually crusade to raise as much money as he could. In war bonds. But it was too late. It was too late. And when you consider the capacity, the weapons and technology today. I don’t even think we’d have the ability to make such a horrendous mistake and push back. Why was NAITO created? Because America is an imperialist colonial power, or because we’re stupid and we like to blow billions of dollars a year, or because we’re moronic and we like to have American troops on foreign soil has nothing to do with any of that. How stupid. It would literally take you an hour or less to learn all you need to know about Naito if you took the time to look. Europe is filled with small countries. Not just big countries. Small countries. They are incapable of defending themselves. Some countries are smaller and with a smaller population than Israel, the Baltic states as an example. Some countries, sort of midsize countries. They too could, notwithstanding onslaught. From a Stalinist leader. Like Putin. And before Putin, the other Stalinist leaders of the old Soviet Union. They could not withstand an alliance. Between communist China and 1.5 billion people. Advanced weaponry. Overwhelming them with conventional weapons and nuclear weapons. They couldn’t withstand it. The world is a much smaller place. America. Hypersonic missiles. Nuclear warheads. Satellite weaponry. It’s a much smaller place. This isn’t the Vikings. It doesn’t take much. People say, What did we get out of Europe? Let me remind you folks something. Some of you have fathers and some of you have grandfathers, uncles, great uncles. Who fought in Europe. Some of you don’t know what I’m talking about, but you’ve seen the old movies, whether it’s Patton, The Battle of the Bulge, Dresden. Brave American heroes, the greatest generation. They went over and they fought in Europe because. Because once you went. These evil. Genocidal murders. Would attack the continental United States. And when they attacked Pearl Harbor. And thank the good Lord. Our aircraft carriers weren’t there. If they’d taken out our aircraft carriers. They’re are planning on attacking the coast of California. They just happened to be out of the bay in Hawaii. They just happened to be out of Pearl Harbor. But that was the goal, to take out essentially the United States Navy in one blow. And they would have. And they would have. We’re NAITO because it protects us. We have forward bases in naito. We have bombers. We have jet fighters. We have nuclear capacities. We have troops. Not a lot, but we have troops. But it enables us to reach parts of the world that we otherwise couldn’t reach at, certainly not in a timely manner. Certainly not in a timely manner. The goal is to keep the enemy off of our shores. They keep them off the continental United States and even now in Alaska and Hawaii. Renato. To protect us and to protect our allies. It’s why you have an alliance. We have an alliance with Australia. We have an alliance with Japan. Why aren’t they far away to? Because they are the first line of defense against the communist Chinese. In and around the Pacific. So I asked Mike Lee. Should we pull out of South Korea? Should we withdraw from our alliance? With Australia and Japan. Well, we’re pulling out of Naito. Should we do that too? How about the Middle East? Should we give that up to. So where should we take a stand other than on the east and West Coast and then on the south and north borders? Where should we do it? Military genius. Where should we do it? Naito has kept the peace in Europe until few invaded Ukraine since the end of World War Two. Since the end of World War Two, the longest peacetime period in that continent for a long time. I’ll be right back.
Segment 2
What were to cost Americans over 400,000 lives. Casualties in the millions. Over $5 trillion. Actually change the nature of our republic. Less constitutional, more centralized and authoritarian. That’s what wars do, unfortunately. That’s what they do. And there were no. Broadly. Built nuclear weapon systems. They were two atomic bombs that were used on Japan. It’s not the case today, now, is it? It’s estimated a conventional war in Europe today would cost 3 to $4 trillion a year, just conventional and hundreds of thousands of lives. If all of Europe was engulfed like what’s going on with just Ukraine and Russia, I mean, the stupidity of these comments and it’s not just Lee. You’ve got Elon Musk saying it. And so I’m happy to debate any of them. I’ll be right back.
Segment 3
The American Putinoids outta fear it most too, but I’m going to tell you something. Since the birth of Nader, there’s not a single commander in chief, Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, populist, constitutionalist who has supported our withdrawal from later. Trump used it as a dealmaker to get some of these narrow countries to pay up, and more of them need to. Why? Because he wanted to get out of Naito, but not because he wanted Nader to be stronger and he wanted the European military to be stronger. Why? To deal with the enemies that Trump knows we have, which is why he wants to build up our military. So all this claptrap about getting out of Naito. This is the crap that we used to hear from the left, the hardcore left. Now we hear it from these kooks, these radical libertarians who are kind of hard core left in many respects. They claim that they care about America first. They don’t. They don’t. You have to be a complete my numb. Knee jerk buffoon. And I’m happy to debate any damn one of them. Right here. It’ll be a waste of time, but it’s okay. There’s no way I can support a candidate. Who talks about we should get out of Naito and hands the Communist Chinese and the fascistic Russians. Europe hands it to them. After my ancestors of many of yours fought and bled in Europe. In Europe to defeat the Axis powers. And. These are the people who are the warmongers. These are the people who will ensure that there’ll be a World War three. Are you kidding? How sick is this? This isn’t conservatism or constitutionalism. It’s not American ism. What is it? What is it? It’s pacifism. Run wild. Crazy. And it gets people killed, millions of them. Millions of them. We shouldn’t have to fight over the same over the same territory, the same ground that our ancestors already fought over. We’re not the enemy. The fact that we have bases and not a lot of them. In Europe to benefit us and our allies is a good thing. It’s not a bad thing. And it keeps spewing the Putin propaganda. Oh, the poor bastard surrounded. Surrounded. Therefore, he has the right to attack these countries. No, he doesn’t. NATO’s provocative, they tell us. No naito. The existence of Naito. Our involvement in Naito’s kept the peace in Europe. That’s what it’s done. It’s kept your kids from fighting in Europe. Where our fathers and grandfathers had a fight, where our uncles and great uncles had to fight. I’d say that’s pretty damn good. Don’t listen to these people. They’re not populists. They’re not nationalists. They’re buffoons. That’s what they are. Buffoons. I remind you, as I have before. There would be no independent America. But for France. But for France. The last great battle. Battle of Yorktown. But for the French navy. But for the French navy. And the French infantry, but especially the French navy. Taking on the British Navy. In that battle. We would not have one. We would not have one. There’d be no United States of America. World War Two. We couldn’t go it alone in World War Two. When we were fighting Hitler in Tojo and Mussolini. Of all the bizarre alliances we allied with Russia. Not because we liked Russia. Because we had a common enemy. As soon as the war was over, Russia began gobbling up Europe. That’s why Natal was created. Try. The Marshall Plan was put in place. Do we think the Greatest Generation was stupid? Do we think all those. All those great men. All those great diplomats, all those great generals, that they were stupid. And along comes some senator or some multibillionaires. Let’s get out of Naito. Let’s get out of Nano. No, Donald Trump does not want to get out of Naito. If he wanted to get out of Nada, he wouldn’t be doing what he’s doing. If he wanted to get out of Nardo, he wouldn’t be demanding that the European countries cough up more money. He’s using it as leverage. He wants to build up Naito. That’s the truth. He wants to build up our military. He’s not an isolationist. And I’ve said this over and over again. You may not agree with every decision he makes, every policy? Yes, but he’s not one of them. How could you be to be an idiot? When push comes to shove, Donald Trump pushes back. He stands tall. Communist Chinese listening to this stuff. Senator. Or the richest man on the planet who I consider a hero. But also when it comes to this really odd. Wait a minute. They want to surrender Europe to us. Wow. We can get into this. And be taken seriously. Taken serious. Wow. We can get into this. I assume then if we should get out of NATO, there should be absolutely no military commitment to Taiwan. Right. Why should there be? There should be absolutely no military commitment to Israel. Right. We’re going to give up Europe. I guess we’re going to give up everybody else, right? I got to hear the explanations. If we’re going to give up Europe, why do we have alliances with Japan and Australia and New Zealand? Serious about this. Obviously we should have nothing to do with South Korea, but it’s going to have to do with America. It’s awfully far away. You know, we had to get out of there, too. Well, we fought the Korean War. Forget about it. Mike and these others, they have they have in my view, they’re like Marxists. The world begins today. History’s to be forgotten or history’s to be condemned. You know, everybody was stupid back then. We’re really smart now. That’s Marxist mindset. We’re smart. We have a clean slate. Don’t you know? We can do things differently. We’re smarter than they were before. George Marshall didn’t know. Crap. Dwight Eisenhower didn’t know a damn thing. Roosevelt. Truman. They didn’t know anything either. Powell, Even Churchill is being attacked now by one of these meat heads. Yeah. Churchill. Look what he. What? He didn’t do much. He didn’t do much. Churchill. I guess Thatcher didn’t know what the hell she was doing either. And Ronald Reagan, too. They were all wrong. All of them. All of them were just smarter today. We just know better today. Really? Well, I’m not willing to expose my children and grandchildren. And your children and grandchildren. To the buffoonery. Of this little cabal. That spews this poison in this stupidity. Of a younger generation. That knows almost nothing about what took place prior to 20 years ago. They’re not taught it. Not in our schools. They’re not taught it. Not in our media. So they don’t know what came before. But those of us who do, we have an obligation to stand up and be heard. Warmonger. Neocon. These people in third grade. Tell me, you men who fought in World War Two, the few of you were left. Were you warmongers? Were you neocons even know what the hell they’re talking about? Of course not. We were attacked. You men and women in uniform today. Are you a warmonger or a neocon? Do you support forever wars? I mean, why have an army? Why have a military? What’s the point? And rather than building up our military, if these guys are right, get out of Naito. Pullback from other alliances. Why not just cut our military in half? Why not just have a navy that’s big enough? To secure both coasts of the United States. Worry about Hawaii to bad. So where do these fools draw the line? They don’t because nobody ever presses them. Nobody ever presses. But I will, because I’ve had enough. Of this stupidity. I’ve had enough. My family went to war in World War Two. If my grandfather and father and my great uncle were alive today and they heard this Mike Lee or people like him or even in on mask when it comes of this, they would be stunned. At the ignorance. The imbecility. Such a life and death situation. While the enemy’s building up or China’s muscling up and we’re not. Hopefully that’ll change and change soon with President’s budget. The idea that they already have a bigger navy than us, they’ve a bigger infantry than us. In ten years, they’re going to more modernized nuclear weapons in US China. The idea that they’ve effectively already taken over the South China Sea. That they have scheme to take over the Panama Canal, that they’re in our hemisphere in violation of Monroe Doctrine, that they have a naval base. Inside Penn and off the west coast of Africa aimed at us. And we’re going to sit around and pick our noses about it. They would be disgusted. As with all the men who died in World War Two and Korea. And Vietnam. You have to listen to these geniuses. Condemn us. Yes. Give it up, America. Give it up. Just back off were the instigators, were the provocateurs besides? Let the Israelis fight on their own, let the Taiwanese fight on their own, let the Australians and Japanese fight on their own. It’s not our problem. Let the Europeans fight on their own. What the hell? What’s the big deal? What’s the big deal? As the world gets smaller and smaller, weapons get more and more powerful in America’s influence shrinks and gets smaller and smaller. And then you wake up one day. And you’re surrounded. Without allies to help you. Then what? Be right back.
Segment 4
Welcome back. You’re going to see from the Democrats tonight probably some kind of clown show because they’ve got sort of these disparate factions within the Democrat Party who have different ideas on what to do, certain types of clothing, certain types of signs, maybe empty cartons. Who the hell knows? It’s not like it used to be. Congress used to be a place that was respectful of tradition, used to be a place where you’d be proud to watch your Congress in action. But not anymore. Always playing to the klieg lights. Well, I have to tell you, folks, these events, this speech, the State of the Union speeches, inaugurations and so forth, the media want to be part of the ruling class on these occasions. They want to be at these events. They want to be seen at these events. They want to schmooze the media with the politicians. The politicians, with the media. I rarely go to these events. They rarely. Rarely. I don’t want to schmooze. I don’t want to be seen with politicians. We’ve got people in the media, even on our side of the train at the railroad track. That is the truth side. We’re constantly calling them, talking to them, them, calling them and talking to them. How am I supposed to be as objective as I possibly can be and hold fast to my principles? If I’m busy negotiating with politicians. But Mark, your friends with Trump doesn’t change a damn thing. I haven’t changed any of my principles. If anything, I think when I speak to people who are politicians, not as a regular matter, not as a social matter, perhaps I have more influence on them than they do on me. I’m not a hermit, but on the other hand, I’m not into this socializing with people I’m supposed to be talking about. The conventions. They need to go to all the events. They got to be always involved, be seen, be heard. I stay away from it. I’ll be right back.