On Thursday’s Mark Levin Show, Russia has declared war on American ally, Ukraine. While the U.S has a memorandum in place with Ukraine we have an obligation to protect Ukraine’s neighbors who are NATO allies. It’s deeply troubling and frustrating that the U.S is not pouring heavy weapons into Ukraine so that they can defend themselves while imposing seriously crippling sanctions on Russia. It’s a perverted view of “‘America First’ to think that the America has provoked Russia or China into invading smaller countries. The greatest generation understood this. Yet, commentators who are obsessed with pacifism and isolationism who don’t care about Ukraine ignore the risk of another world war; they are modern-day Tokyo Rose’s providing aid and comfort to Russia. Then, Peter Pry joins the show to discuss the threat of Russia attacking America’s electrical grid. Pry says that the Department of Energy and politicians of every stripe have corrupt relationships that prevent them from taking action to safeguard our electrical systems. Biden’s focus has been on solar and wind energy which ultimately de-stabilizes the grid by closing coal plants and adding electric cars. Later, Sen. Tom Cotton weighs in on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine pointing out that Putin made it clear in his essay that their goal is to restore the Russian empire which includes, Belarus, Ukraine, and other neighbors. Cotton added that Biden needs to bolster domestic energy to combat Russia’s gains in that sector. Afterward, Congressman Mo Brooks calls in to discuss how principled conservatives are being targeted by RINO candidates pushed by Sen. Mitch McConnell in his race for the Senate in Alabama. Brooks added that the southern border must be secured and the cost to taxpayers is a huge burden.
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Hour 1 Segment 1
Well, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, if you’ve listened to this program, an invasion has occurred. There’s a war taking place. Russia has declared war on an American ally, Ukraine. While it’s true we don’t have any direct treaty obligations, although we do have an obligation as a result of the 1994 memo that everybody’s ignoring. We don’t have a formal treaty obligation. But Ukraine is surrounded by countries with whom we do have a formal treaty obligation. The North Atlantic. Organization. Treaty organization, NATO. Poland, Hungary, Romania, the Balkans. All members of NATO. All on the border. With Ukraine and given Putin’s Stalinist like speech 48 hours ago. Where he lays claim to all the formerly captive nations that were freed. Under Reagan. And his policies. And beyond, he wants the satellite nations he wants controlled. Including the nations I mentioned and beyond. He’s talking about the Russian empire. Empire. Not the old Soviet Union per say, the Russian empire, which is broader than the old Soviet Union. I am deeply disturbed and frustrated by the fact that we haven’t unleashed crippling sanctions, these salami tactics don’t work and they’re not going to work. I am deeply troubled and frustrated that we are not pouring. Weaponry enormous amounts into the Ukraine. We’ve stood up to the Russians before, we’ve stood up to the Soviets before. You know, there was a West Berlin. Harry Truman stepped up to the plate. And, of course, West Germany. And we could go on. Now, not by choice, by Putin’s, we need to see the Russian army bogged down in Ukraine and the Ukrainian people are brave people and they have a very smart. Democratic courageous leadership in Zolensky was really quite remarkable day here, Putin say he wants to die, not safai the Ukraine. Ukraine’s president is a Jew, and he was elected overwhelmingly. And one of the reasons he was elected overwhelmingly was to stop Putin. And a corrupt government that. Preceded him. By two presidencies. Now, I don’t know, but I just cannot understand why we are not, in fact, unleashing crushing sanctions against Putin directly. I don’t know why we have at least 15 areas of his economy that we’re not going to touch. I don’t know why we’re not pouring weapons, defensive and offensive. Into Ukraine. To protect not just the Ukrainian people, but to protect the NATO allies and to protect the United States, for God’s sakes. Now, what do you think? How about the commentators on radio and TV, on the left and on the right? Who said to you or misled you and propagandized you? That they don’t care about Ukraine, what does anything after do with Ukraine? J.D. Vance running in Ohio puts out a statement, I just don’t care about Ukraine. What’s the big deal? What’s the big deal? To prevent a world war, that’s the big deal. And then there’s China. China has the second largest economy on the planet. Their economy is about 80 percent, the size of our economy 10 years ago was about 50 percent the size of our economy. Their military in some respects. It’s significantly bigger than ours and quite capable of fighting. It’s a nation of one point five billion people. We’re a nation of 330 million. They’re watching this, as I said, over and over again. Just as they watched us surrender in Afghanistan, just as they watch us surrender to the Islam of Nazi mullahs in Tehran. And their nuclear ambitions, they’re watching the whole damn thing. And these same neo con artists, if you will. Neo appeasers, neo sellouts that don’t put America first and they don’t care about your kids and your grandkids. The Tokyo Roses of Our Time. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy. As far as I’m concerned. No one in particular, just as a general matter. Because they come to the defense of the enemy. Now, look, folks, we’re all well aware that we have a pathetic individual sitting in the Oval Office is not up to this job. We all know steps could have been taken. A year ago, eight months ago, six months ago. That were not taken, whether dealing with Russia or China. Dealing in Afghanistan or dealing with Iran? We know we are handicapped with a president and an administration. That appeases. But that’s not an excuse, is it, for we red blooded Americans? For the men and women who have volunteered in our military. That’s not an excuse. To be obsessed with pacifism. To be obsessed with appeasement. To be obsessed with isolationism. No country has ever survived isolationism. Not one. Because the enemy doesn’t care what you declare. I’ve talked about the Calgarian Act in the past. Let me dusted off past in the 1920s. Passed after World War One, signed by. At least two score of nations. What did it do? It outlawed war. They signed. A treaty that outlawed war. But the problem was some of the countries that signed it and some of the countries that didn’t had no intention of complying. Did it work 100 years later, here we are. Many wars, big and small. Pacifism is unilateral disarmament and disengagement. That’s what it is. Isolationism. It’s almost like a 15th century military ideology that we’re going to be protected by the Pacific in the Atlantic. How absurd is that? There’s many things that could have been done to protect this country in the last year and beyond, including our electrical grid. Now everybody’s talking about the vulnerability of the electrical grid, should Putin attack it? And they’re using that as an argument for a 15th century insanity. Isolationism in the face. Of aggressive, evil, genocidal maniacs. Isolationism. That’s not going to work. Ukraine didn’t pick on anybody, they weren’t looking for a fight. Israel hasn’t been looking for a fight with the Iranians. The South Koreans aren’t looking for a fight with the North Koreans. Tea, ladies and gentlemen, there really are enemies out there. They really are. And if a country stupid. It embraces isolationism. Or the neo con artists. They will lose a lot of their people. Some people need to be hit with a reality bat. At the bottom of the hour, we’re going to have our friend Peter Pry on the program to explain again the vulnerability of our electrical grid. Could have spent 10 or 20 billion dollars and protected the whole damn thing. I don’t know of another host on TV or radio who has spent more time talking about this and insisting on it, whether Republican presidents or Democrat presidents, I don’t know any other host who first introduced you to Peter Pry. Was a national asset. And only now we talk about these things. I’ll be right back
Hour 1 Segment 2
We’re going to have Peter Pry on after the bottom of the hour, we’re going to have Tom Cotton on next hour and he is very sensible and sober on these matters. There’s been a lot of sort of deflection arguments made by friend and foe alike. We’re not even securing our own border. How can we secure the border with other countries, with cities whose names we don’t even know? What? Wow, that’s quite a. A neutral standard. How about we secure our border and help defend our allies? You want to send one of your kids to war? No, I don’t want to send any of my kids to war. And the surest way to send them to war is to appease these provocateurs who are evil. And we want to take over as many countries as they possibly can. And ah, hell and hell bent on doing it. But that said, last time I checked, we have an entirely volunteer military, so unless we go to the draft, we’re not sending anybody to war who hasn’t already volunteered to be in the military. I don’t say that with any form of glee or celebration. I just make the point that the argument makes no sense. Number three, ladies and gentlemen, how many cases have you seen? Where Russia inpart. Pacula. Over its 100 year communist and fascistic history that is subsequent to the czar, but we can go back to the czar, if you want, has been stopped by meekness, weakness. Appeasement, none, you’ve seen none. In fact, Russia looks for smaller countries with smaller populations and relatively small militaries to gobble up. That’s what they do. That’s what they’ve done. And that’s what they’re going to keep doing. If they think they can get away with it. But let me ask a question, how many cities beyond Seoul and South Korea can you name on the. I don’t know any, do you, Mr. Producer? I can’t think of any so shall we get out of Sakari? Do we care about that border? We fought a war over that border. Hmm, interesting. How many cities can you name? In the Middle East, outside of five or six basic cities. Not a lot, I bet. She withdraw our support for Israel. How many how many countries beyond maybe 10 countries can even name in the continent of Africa? Shall we take all of our favorite bases out of Africa? How many cities can you name in Honduras, Guatemala, Bolivia? Venezuela. How many? So that’s not the test, and if we don’t secure our border, that means we don’t support our allies. What kind of insideout thinking is that? It makes no sense whatsoever. Why is it that people talk this way, think this way or right this way? Are so careful about criticizing Vladimir Putin. A long time Russian KGB operative. He was the enforcer in East Germany, meaning killer. He had very tight ties with the Russian mob, certain Russian oligarchs, in order to take over Russia. He wins his first election with 40 percent of the vote. Some of the candidates are knocked out. Some are actually knocked off 40 percent. And he never gives up power since. OK, Ukraine. How about the Balkan states? Romania. Big problem there. The Balkan states, what about Kosovo, Bosnia? sars-cov-2. OK, so we’ve already said forget about South Korea, forget about the Middle East, what do we care? Trump knocks out Sulaimani the same course. Of neo con artists. Sellouts and appeasers saying this is provocative. Who’s behind all this, ladies and gentlemen, is that the neocons? The Jews. It’s a federal contractors. The very federal contractors who build the best equipment on the face of the earth so we can use it and protect our men and women in uniform. Now they’re the enemy, too. They’re just mere profiteers, is that it? Wow. More and more, these so-called people on the right are signing more and more like those people on the radical left who hate this country, America first. They certainly don’t sound that way.
Hour 1 Segment 3
You know, it’s it’s rather remarkable watching this. Democrats now talk about how we should do more when they’ve undermined our military. They’ve never funded the military properly when they’ve been pushing critical race theory on the military, when they’ve been abusing our military personnel now, certainly during the full time of the Biden regime, and now all of a sudden they have figured out we need a potent military, high morale. But now it’s why aren’t we doing more? It’s just amazing to watch these people. Peter Pry is a national gem. He’s been talking about the electrical grid till he’s blue in the face. I’ve done what I can in a limited way here and on Fox and on live in TV to help promote what he’s saying and to push it out as many people as I can. More and more people are talking about it. But, Peter, it’s very interesting to me when we get into a situation like this now, people are well, you know, our electrical grid is exposed and there some people can do that. Why the hell don’t we do something about it when we can? Well, the the government bureaucracy, Department of Energy and the Department of Homeland Security, but the Department of Energy in particular has a corrupt relationship with the electric industry lobbyists like Nerkh and the Electric Power Research Institute who don’t want to do anything against EMP or cyber or even or even provide the kinds of safeguards that would prevent blackouts in severe snowstorms in Texas, where high winds in California, it’s obvious that when the utilities are so irresponsible and so greedy that that they put public safety behind their profits so that they’re willing to tolerate electric power lines getting knocked down in California and causing wildfires that kill hundreds of people, or in Texas, where they allow a snowstorm to blackout the electric grid down there, which also killed over 100 people. Because to be honest, it’s also the politicians in Texas and California and all. Yes, they keep pushing this alternative energy stuff and they act like this electrical grid is just going to always be there. That’s right, the Biden administration, to its minor credit, OK, has his continuing president Trump’s executive order and is putting, oh, maybe three hundred million dollars into employee protection of the of the grid over the next six years. But they’re putting trillions of dollars into climate change and COGAT that the climate change measures that they’re taking on the grid are going to more aren’t going to make the grid far more vulnerable. On balance, when Biden is done with his plans, the grid will be far more vulnerable to cyber an MP than it is now. That’s because solar and wind are while they’re good for microgrid, I mean, you can run a house on solar or wind power, but you can’t run a national electric grid on solar and wind power. The sun doesn’t always shine, the wind doesn’t always blow. There are inherently destabilizing forms of electricity and they will destabilize the grid and make it easier to want to make cyber and empty attacks. And the Biden fenestration wants to put a lot more stress on the grid through electrical cars and closing down coal fire and hydro plants, not doing anything to expand nuclear. Those are the most resilient forms of electrical energy, and they’re the very ones that they want to shut down somehow in the name of climate change. That doesn’t make any sense, especially hydro and nuclear, because those are also the cleanest forms of of of energy in addition to being the most resilient. So the policy is a rational it’s an example of them living in a fantasy world. I mean, what do you expect from an administration that thinks that public policy should be based on 32 gender’s instead of two biological sexes? Same thing in the crisis that’s going on in NATO. You know, this idea, you know, NATO has been hollowed out. It’s so weak. And we didn’t even have any vital national interests at stake in Ukraine. And the president put the nation’s credibility on the line in Ukraine, drew a line in the sand, and the Russians have stepped right over it. I mean, he’s in one stroke, destroyed U.S. credibility all over the world, and he’s imposing these sanctions. The Russians can put sanctions on what? Sanctions? Right. These are not serious sanctions. No, they’re not. But even if they were, I mean, sanctions, I think intelligent people and tyrannies, they do have done that so many times that sanctions are kind of phony war. They’re a kind of. Well, we your disagree with this. You may recall that Reagan broke the back of the Soviet Union through economic sanctions, outspending them out, building them, outmaneuvering them. So it has worked, but it’s not going to work under this president. Yeah, that was combined with a big investment in our military and building. I agree 100 percent and and technological arms race that the Russians couldn’t win with the Strategic Defense Initiative, which is why they’re back. We’re not doing any of it. No, we’re not doing any of that. So when you hear Democrats today say we should be doing more and more, I’m saying the time to do more was before. Yeah. Was before. And now I would ask you this. What do we do today? What can we do today? What order should be issued today to get these grids or get this grid at least significantly more protected than it is today? We don’t act like we’re doing anything. We can’t spend oh and five years, so they’ll be protected. We don’t have five years. Well, I wrote an article that got a lot of attention a couple of weeks ago about how the governors of the states because of Washington, D.C., has dropped the ball on energy and cyber protection, that the governors of the states may suddenly find themselves on the front lines of a cyber war with Russia. And and so since I wouldn’t wait for Washington, I hope the governors of the states, you know, could pass executive orders to protect. What would you have in there? I appended an executive order. I’d have them I’d have them direct the emergency management agencies and all of the states to start laying plans about what are you going to do to try to keep your population alive in the event of a blackout? What emergency measures? I would have them get together, start calling in at the state level, the defense contractors who have hardened the military, they’re available in the phone book. They’re not a secret. You know, you can find them in a 15 minute search. Companies like Kalki, for example, that have done MPLX Hardeen for the military and bring them in and get estimates from them on. How much is it going to cost to protect the Florida electric grid, you know, or Texas or wherever you are and come up with a plan? And the plans that they’ll offer, they may even do that for free. I had a project going in Louisiana which unfortunately got stopped for political reasons. But you know, where we were able to get free plans, three free plans for protecting Louisiana electric grid. And then once you’ve got a plan, you know, to implement that plan and the plan can be implemented by modest rate increases, you know, to pay for the EMP and cyber protection of the electric grid or invoking the Critical Infrastructure Protection Act that was passed by the senator, Ron Johnson, who’s been a heroic warrior, who really is under this under Critical Infrastructure Protection Act. The state should be able to write to the secretary of Homeland Security and get help hardening their grids, including. Let me ask let me ask a practical question, though. These electrical grids, most of them, as far as I know, you correct me if I’m wrong, they don’t begin and end at a state line. So let’s say one of these states, Tennessee, Florida, Texas, says, all right, we are going to harden ours and that’s going to be great. But what if the state next door does not want that effect? Texas, Tennessee and these others say, how does that work? Well, if you harden the generators and the transformers within your state, while you may be affected somewhat by a neighboring state, you can basically keep the lights on within your state. The AMP commission recommended this and it’s called islanding. You can basically island your state remains on normal. Under normal circumstances, the grid would operate as it always does, because we’ve got three big grids, the Texas grid, the eastern grid in the western grid. You know, most of the country is on the eastern grid, but any individual state within that grid, you know, if you harden your generators, harden the big transformers, you know, harden the skaters, you know, which doesn’t cost a lot and it’s not hard to do. You know, you can keep the lights on in that state. It’ll be islanded. So even if all the other states around you have done nothing and they go down, you’ll keep the lights on. Your hospitals, your police stations, people’s homes will be we’ll have our many states really leading the way in this regard. They’re trying to. Senator Bob Hall down in Texas. State Senator Bob Hall has like four, three or four years in a row, has tried to get a bill through the Texas state legislature. What’s the problem, the Republicans, the the the electric the electric lobbyists will come in, we’ll do the electric lobbyists only governor. Yeah, pretty much, really, when I was very disappointed in Governor Abbott, when after after the Texas ice storm, you know, caused a serious blow in Texas that killed a lot of people. That was the time for for the governor to call in, not to stop trusting Bercot, which is the basically the they regulate the utilities in Texas and they are in the pocket of the utilities. Urca does whatever the Texas utilities want and they’re always turning to Bercot and the utilities as if they have the expertise to harden against cyber. They don’t even have the expertise to harden against snowstorms or unexpected ice storms. You know, that was the time for him to to to take charge himself, to get together with Senator Hall and past Senator Hollings bill, which would have would to form an emergency committee, you know, that would brought in these defense contractors to advise them on how to harden the electric grid. What about Florida? There is a utility in Texas that is a hero. All right. I want to move to Texas. We’re going to run out of time. What about Florida? Yes, Florida can protect itself. I’ve I’ve actually had a conference conference, at least one conversation with Governor Santos about doing it. And I’m the the the hypothetical executive order I wrote was an executive order for Falk for the state of Florida. Um, I know Governor Santos knows about MPLX and he cares about it. You know, Florida would be a great state to do it. It in fact, Florida was specifically named back in April of last year when the Russians were threatening cyber attacks against the United States. They pacifically mentioned the state of Florida, that they could make an example of Florida and blackout the Florida electric grid. Now, why were they seven straight? They said that in in. No, no, no, why would they pick Florida? I’m not I’m not sure why, why, why, why, particularly it may be that they’re there, that they’ve penetrated that area best, or possibly, you know, because it’s it’s so close to Cuba that they could do other things operating out of Cuba against Florida. But they mentioned three options where they could demonstrate their cyber superiority against the United States. One was black and Harlem in New York City and then going bigger and going against the state of Florida in black in Florida or then going all the way and doing an all out cyber war that would black out the whole United States. But the fact that they specifically mentioned Florida is very significant. Let me take a break. Let me take a break. I want to bring bring you back after the break, Peter. And I want to thank you on short notice. You’re very, very important in this discussion. And my question when we come back is this. Can we hurt Russia? Really, really badly, if there’s a cyber war and if we go on offense first, can we knock them out before they knock us out? That’s my question to you, Mr. Producer. We’ll be right back.
Hour 1 Segment 4
The question for our good friend, Peter Pry, could we unleash a cyber attack on them that would turn their economy and their country inside out? I don’t think so. I know the administration claims that we could you know, we supposedly have ah, I’m sure we do have offensive cyber warfare programs that are deeply classified black programs prepared by the National Security Agency. But the reason I’m skeptical is, you know, I look at our cyber warfare doctrine and it’s really simplistic. It’s it relies only on bugs and logic bombs and everything that is associated with the Internet. But it’s not as sophisticated as Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, who have a much more sophisticated doctrine. Let me let me interrupt there, because we only have a few minutes. Why is that? What the hell are we doing? Because, you know, because in part, it’s in part it’s the lawyers who don’t want cyberspace turned into a military are what lawyers wear in the Department of Defense in the state. Yeah. Here’s a metric, OK, since we don’t have much time. One of the reasons I don’t think that we have that kind of cyber warfare capability is that every time the Russians, Chinese or North Koreans hit us, the government politicians threaten, we’re going to hit them back or we should hit them back. You know, we never seem to hit them back, say so. You know, every time we have a major cyber attack on this country, if you look around, you follow the newspapers. You know, the bad guys never get hit bad. So that makes me extremely skeptical that it makes me think it’s all talk and that we and that we really don’t have an effective counter counter capability when it comes to cyber warfare. I also know the Russians have hardened their electric grid. You know, they they have deliberately used earlier electromechanical technologies which are basically invulnerable to cyber attack and much less vulnerable to attack. And they’ve done that purposely because when they originally designed the electric grid, they had national security in mind. You know, that was not our electric grid has been designed by the private sector for making money, and it was never designed with national security in mind. And the more we become reliant on one source of energy, electricity, we blow off coal, we blow off natural gas, we blow up oil and all the rest, we become even more vulnerable, don’t we? Yes, I’m a little surprised that the president is paying so much attention to the price of gas going up as the biggest consequence that Americans are going to have to pay for his his folly in Ukraine. I thought they like that anything. He hasn’t said anything about the fact that we could get hit with a cyber attack by Russia that would blackout our electric grid and could have catastrophic consequences for our for our society. But I thought they wanted to drive up the cost of fossil fuels and destroy those industries. Yeah, maybe they’re using the Ukrainian crisis as an excuse for that to help. But, I mean, they act like they’re worried about it. You know, that’s the great. And I’m thinking to myself, wait a minute, this is like your dream. This is what you’ve been wanting to do. Right. They’ve always wanted six dollar a gallon gasoline, so people will give up on cars and use mass transportation and or go to electric vehicles. That’s a that’s a major goal of the climate change agenda. I get the sense, Peter Prime, we only have a minute. That you believe we’ve provoked Russia, is that is that where you’re coming from? Yes, I do. I think American foreign policy was misguided and lost its way after the Reagan and Bush administrations when we were going to try to turn Russia into a strategic partner. And then Bill Clinton dropped that ball during his eight years, and then Bush got distracted by the war on terror and expanded NATO eastward. And when he did that, that guaranteed we were going to come into a conflict with Russia. I mean, I think our goal should have been by putting Ukraine doesn’t even have any nukes anymore. All right. We’ll talk about this another day.